1 00:00:15,316 --> 00:00:17,115 [Rush Lindell] You know what nobody wants to say out loud? 2 00:00:17,615 --> 00:00:20,266 [Rush Lindell] Everyone's staring at the Senate like it's the whole ball game, 3 00:00:20,615 --> 00:00:21,115 [Rush Lindell] and meanwhile, 4 00:00:21,316 --> 00:00:24,265 [Rush Lindell] the real action is happening one floor down, in the House, 5 00:00:24,615 --> 00:00:28,716 [Rush Lindell] where Speaker Johnson is working with a margin so thin you could fold it into a napkin. 6 00:00:29,216 --> 00:00:31,466 [Rush Lindell] Republicans hold 218 seats. 7 00:00:31,915 --> 00:00:33,466 [Rush Lindell] The Democrats need three. 8 00:00:33,915 --> 00:00:34,615 [Rush Lindell] Three seats. 9 00:00:34,765 --> 00:00:36,465 [Rush Lindell] And Hakeem Jeffries picks up the gavel. 10 00:00:36,565 --> 00:00:38,915 [Reagan] And the map just got scrambled. 11 00:00:39,415 --> 00:00:40,565 [Rush Lindell] Completely scrambled. 12 00:00:40,865 --> 00:00:44,015 [Rush Lindell] April 29th, the Supreme Court drops a Louisiana v. 13 00:00:44,020 --> 00:00:52,520 [Rush Lindell] Callais ruling—a six three Alito opinion that effectively guts Section two of the Voting Rights Act—and states treated it like a starter's pistol. 14 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:53,420 [Reagan] Florida, 15 00:00:53,620 --> 00:00:54,070 [Reagan] Tennessee, 16 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:54,820 [Reagan] Alabama, 17 00:00:55,020 --> 00:01:01,420 [Reagan] all moving within days—the Hill called it roiling the twenty twenty six midterms, and that's not an understatement. 18 00:01:01,870 --> 00:01:02,570 [Rush Lindell] That's generous, 19 00:01:02,670 --> 00:01:03,070 [Rush Lindell] actually. 20 00:01:03,570 --> 00:01:05,519 [Rush Lindell] We'll walk through the state by state fallout: 21 00:01:05,819 --> 00:01:08,269 [Rush Lindell] DeSantis targeting four Democratic incumbents, 22 00:01:08,569 --> 00:01:11,420 [Rush Lindell] Tennessee cracking Memphis across three rural districts. 23 00:01:11,347 --> 00:01:16,897 [Rush Lindell] It affects the potential GOP seat gains and the legal chaos still trailing every one of those maps. 24 00:01:17,298 --> 00:01:23,097 [Reagan] And we're going to get into the core debate whether redrawn maps can actually stop a wave election. 25 00:01:23,397 --> 00:01:30,698 [Reagan] Race to the W.H. had Republican House odds jump from 18.9 to 27.2 percent after the new maps, 26 00:01:30,748 --> 00:01:33,847 [Reagan] but Democrats are still around 73 percent favorites. 27 00:01:34,248 --> 00:01:36,097 [Rush Lindell] Which is the question worth asking: 28 00:01:36,498 --> 00:01:37,897 [Rush Lindell] does a map change the math? 29 00:01:37,748 --> 00:01:37,998 [Rush Lindell] Math, 30 00:01:38,048 --> 00:01:39,898 [Rush Lindell] when the environment is moving against you. 31 00:01:40,248 --> 00:01:43,248 [Reagan] twenty eighteen had an answer for that-forty one seats. 32 00:01:43,698 --> 00:01:44,148 [Rush Lindell] It did, 33 00:01:44,347 --> 00:01:45,548 [Rush Lindell] and we'll get to that argument. 34 00:01:46,048 --> 00:01:50,348 [Reagan] Plus the retirement numbers-thirty six Republican incumbents walking out the door. 35 00:01:50,798 --> 00:01:53,148 [Reagan] Ballotpedia says that's a single party record. 36 00:01:53,398 --> 00:01:54,198 [Reagan] Open seats are 37 00:01:54,198 --> 00:01:54,248 [Rush Lindell] Yeah. 38 00:01:54,248 --> 00:01:55,998 [Reagan] where majorities actually break. 39 00:01:56,448 --> 00:01:58,098 [Rush Lindell] All of that starting right now. 40 00:01:58,498 --> 00:02:01,147 [Rush Lindell] The House is where power moves in twenty twenty six. 41 00:02:01,597 --> 00:02:02,147 [Rush Lindell] First stop, 42 00:02:02,397 --> 00:02:03,498 [Rush Lindell] the ruling that started it. 43 00:02:03,475 --> 00:02:04,176 [Speaker 3] Everything. 44 00:02:04,626 --> 00:02:05,225 [Speaker 3] Before 45 00:02:09,776 --> 00:02:11,825 [Rush Lindell] Before we get into it, a quick reminder: 46 00:02:12,126 --> 00:02:13,675 [Rush Lindell] we love hearing from you. 47 00:02:13,925 --> 00:02:16,475 [Rush Lindell] If you have questions or topics you'd like us to cover, 48 00:02:16,876 --> 00:02:19,626 [Rush Lindell] head to the link in the description and submit your question. 49 00:02:19,925 --> 00:02:21,925 [Rush Lindell] We read every single one. 50 00:02:27,379 --> 00:02:31,680 [Rush Lindell] We've been watching the wrong race. This show, half of talk radio, 51 00:02:31,879 --> 00:02:39,930 [Rush Lindell] every Senate obsessive with their color-coded map-all of us have had our eyes on Senate seats while the real power play is happening in the House, 52 00:02:40,180 --> 00:02:41,629 [Rush Lindell] and I mean right now, 53 00:02:41,629 --> 00:02:41,729 [Reagan] Mm 54 00:02:41,729 --> 00:02:41,930 [Rush Lindell] today, 55 00:02:41,930 --> 00:02:42,129 [Reagan] -hmm. 56 00:02:42,129 --> 00:02:42,329 [Rush Lindell] 57 00:02:42,729 --> 00:02:46,979 [Rush Lindell] in state legislatures that most people couldn't name if you spotted them three letters. 58 00:02:47,530 --> 00:02:50,530 [Reagan] The math is unforgiving. According to Ballotpedia, 59 00:02:50,729 --> 00:02:54,930 [Reagan] Republicans currently hold a 218-214 House majority. 60 00:02:55,092 --> 00:02:56,542 [Reagan] with Three vacancies. 61 00:02:57,092 --> 00:02:58,742 [Reagan] That's a two-seat working buffer. 62 00:02:59,242 --> 00:03:01,192 [Reagan] Democrats flip three districts, 63 00:03:01,542 --> 00:03:02,292 [Reagan] just three, 64 00:03:02,542 --> 00:03:05,342 [Reagan] and Hakeem Jeffries picks up the gavel from Speaker Johnson. 65 00:03:05,892 --> 00:03:07,092 [Speaker 3] Three seats. 66 00:03:07,192 --> 00:03:08,292 [Speaker 3] I want that to land. 67 00:03:08,292 --> 00:03:08,492 [Reagan] Yeah. 68 00:03:08,492 --> 00:03:08,842 [Speaker 3] Three. 69 00:03:09,042 --> 00:03:10,092 [Speaker 3] That's not a wave. 70 00:03:10,192 --> 00:03:11,192 [Speaker 3] That's a weather event. 71 00:03:11,391 --> 00:03:15,942 [Speaker 3] A bad Tuesday in four swing districts and the entire legislative agenda flips. 72 00:03:16,242 --> 00:03:19,292 [Speaker 3] I'm calling this thing what it is. The Gavel Watch. 73 00:03:19,492 --> 00:03:21,342 [Speaker 3] That's what we're running all episode. 74 00:03:21,427 --> 00:03:22,728 [Speaker 3] THE GAVEL WATCH 75 00:03:23,027 --> 00:03:25,728 [Reagan] And redistricting just made it more volatile, 76 00:03:25,927 --> 00:03:26,578 [Reagan] not less: 77 00:03:27,027 --> 00:03:35,978 [Reagan] ten states redrew maps for twenty twenty six; Sabato's Crystal Ball reported Republicans netted an expected gain of around six seats from redistricting, 78 00:03:36,328 --> 00:03:41,677 [Reagan] but simultaneously said the map still isn't red enough to protect them from a bad political environment. 79 00:03:42,127 --> 00:03:46,277 [Rush Lindell] So they drew themselves a better map and might still lose the House. 80 00:03:46,677 --> 00:03:47,277 [Rush Lindell] That's- 81 00:03:47,620 --> 00:03:49,620 [Rush Lindell] That's the Republican Party in a sentence. 82 00:03:49,919 --> 00:03:51,419 [Reagan] I wouldn't go that far. 83 00:03:51,870 --> 00:03:54,219 [Rush Lindell] No, but here's what actually scrambled everything. 84 00:03:54,669 --> 00:03:57,719 [Rush Lindell] April 29th, the Supreme Court drops Louisiana v. 85 00:03:58,020 --> 00:04:03,020 [Rush Lindell] Callais, a 6-3 ruling that effectively kneecaps Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act, 86 00:04:03,270 --> 00:04:07,020 [Rush Lindell] the legal guardrail that protected majority-minority districts for decades, 87 00:04:07,370 --> 00:04:09,569 [Rush Lindell] gone. And the day the ruling landed, 88 00:04:09,870 --> 00:04:11,870 [Rush Lindell] Florida passed a new redistricting bill. 89 00:04:12,219 --> 00:04:15,069 [Rush Lindell] Tennessee eliminated its only majority-minority House. 90 00:04:14,900 --> 00:04:19,850 [Rush Lindell] House district Alabama filed emergency motions to reinstate legislature drawn maps. 91 00:04:20,250 --> 00:04:25,600 [Reagan] Brookings flagged it directly; before Callais the trajectory was trending towards a Democratic wave, 92 00:04:25,900 --> 00:04:29,250 [Reagan] that ruling changed the math in Southern states almost immediately. 93 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,400 [Rush Lindell] So the Senate obsession was always a distraction. 94 00:04:32,699 --> 00:04:35,100 [Rush Lindell] The House is where the country actually gets governed, 95 00:04:35,350 --> 00:04:39,100 [Rush Lindell] and right now one court ruling just reshuffled the entire board. 96 00:04:39,449 --> 00:04:40,250 [Rush Lindell] The question is, 97 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,050 [Rush Lindell] what does that ruling actually do? 98 00:04:41,779 --> 00:04:44,979 [Rush Lindell] due to the constitutional framework underneath all of this. 99 00:04:50,324 --> 00:04:53,274 [Rush Lindell] So let's talk about what Callais actually did, 100 00:04:53,424 --> 00:04:54,973 [Rush Lindell] because the legal mechanics matter. 101 00:04:55,574 --> 00:04:56,473 [Rush Lindell] April twenty ninth, 102 00:04:56,774 --> 00:05:04,074 [Rush Lindell] Justice Alito writes a six three opinion that essentially catches Section two of the Voting Rights Act in a trap of its own making. 103 00:05:04,473 --> 00:05:04,874 [Reagan] Right, 104 00:05:04,924 --> 00:05:08,124 [Reagan] and the trap is interesting from a constitutional standpoint: 105 00:05:08,624 --> 00:05:15,224 [Reagan] Louisiana drew a second majority-black district because a federal court told them Section 2 required it. 106 00:05:15,374 --> 00:05:17,574 [Reagan] Then a separate court said wait. 107 00:05:17,684 --> 00:05:23,684 [Reagan] Drawing that district with race as the dominant factor is an unconstitutional racial gerrymander. 108 00:05:24,184 --> 00:05:26,584 [Rush Lindell] Louisiana got sued not to have the district, 109 00:05:26,834 --> 00:05:28,134 [Rush Lindell] then sued to have it. 110 00:05:28,384 --> 00:05:30,084 [Rush Lindell] The lawyers ate well either way. 111 00:05:30,434 --> 00:05:36,484 [Reagan] They did; but here's where I'll give the majority some credit before I say why this still feels messy. 112 00:05:37,084 --> 00:05:44,534 [Reagan] The tension between Section two and the Equal Protection Clause was real; courts were genuinely pulling in opposite directions. 113 00:05:44,596 --> 00:05:47,045 [Reagan] Alito didn't invent that problem. 114 00:05:47,495 --> 00:05:56,646 [Rush Lindell] Agreed-the Gingles framework-that's the nineteen eighty six test for proving minority vote dilution had gotten stretched in ways that were hard to defend on first principles. 115 00:05:57,146 --> 00:06:07,495 [Reagan] Right; but what Callais does now is raise the evidentiary bar so high that plaintiffs essentially have to prove intentional discrimination to win a Section two claim. 116 00:06:08,045 --> 00:06:10,545 [Reagan] Justice Kagan called it "all but a dead letter" 117 00:06:10,646 --> 00:06:11,196 [Reagan] in dissent. 118 00:06:11,515 --> 00:06:12,665 [Reagan] That's not hyperbole. 119 00:06:12,865 --> 00:06:15,315 [Speaker 3] And that's the thing that matters for this episode, 120 00:06:15,565 --> 00:06:21,815 [Speaker 3] because the Brennan Center noted the court reworked the 40-year-old Gingles standard three changes stacked together, 121 00:06:21,815 --> 00:06:21,915 [Reagan] Wow. 122 00:06:21,915 --> 00:06:25,015 [Speaker 3] and the states read that ruling like a starter's pistol. 123 00:06:25,465 --> 00:06:28,915 [Reagan] Florida passed a new map the same day the decision dropped. 124 00:06:29,315 --> 00:06:30,915 [Reagan] Tennessee moved within days. 125 00:06:31,415 --> 00:06:37,115 [Reagan] Alabama filed an emergency petition to reinstate maps a federal court had already thrown out. 126 00:06:37,043 --> 00:06:37,193 [Reagan] out. 127 00:06:37,394 --> 00:06:38,693 [Speaker 3] Within hours, 128 00:06:38,894 --> 00:06:40,293 [Speaker 3] not weeks-hours. 129 00:06:40,693 --> 00:06:41,543 [Reagan] And Louisiana, 130 00:06:41,793 --> 00:06:43,593 [Reagan] the state the whole case was named after, 131 00:06:43,843 --> 00:06:49,793 [Reagan] suspended its own primaries outright; over a hundred thousand people had already cast early votes. 132 00:06:50,193 --> 00:06:54,993 [Speaker 3] Over an ongoing election-that's where the legal story crashes into the real world, 133 00:06:55,394 --> 00:06:57,193 [Speaker 3] and that's exactly where we're going next. 134 00:07:02,649 --> 00:07:05,649 [Rush Lindell] So Florida went first and went hard. 135 00:07:05,899 --> 00:07:09,399 [Rush Lindell] DeSantis signed a new map targeting four Democratic incumbents: 136 00:07:09,699 --> 00:07:10,099 [Rush Lindell] Castor, 137 00:07:10,349 --> 00:07:10,699 [Rush Lindell] Soto, 138 00:07:10,999 --> 00:07:11,549 [Rush Lindell] Moskowitz, 139 00:07:11,749 --> 00:07:13,899 [Rush Lindell] Wasserman Schultz. Four seats, 140 00:07:13,899 --> 00:07:13,949 [Reagan] Wow! 141 00:07:13,949 --> 00:07:14,549 [Rush Lindell] Gone, 142 00:07:14,849 --> 00:07:15,449 [Rush Lindell] just like that. 143 00:07:15,899 --> 00:07:22,049 [Reagan] That's the Hill's reporting from April twenty ninth; four Democratic-held districts flipped to Republican-leaning on paper. 144 00:07:22,549 --> 00:07:24,699 [Reagan] The question is whether the math actually holds. 145 00:07:25,249 --> 00:07:26,499 [Rush Lindell] And that's a fair question, 146 00:07:26,649 --> 00:07:26,849 [Rush Lindell] Reagan, 147 00:07:27,149 --> 00:07:27,599 [Rush Lindell] deadpan, 148 00:07:27,949 --> 00:07:30,399 [Rush Lindell] because one redistricting expert at the University of 149 00:07:30,233 --> 00:07:37,383 [Rush Lindell] The State of Florida called it a plus two or plus three map if the political environment stays ugly for Republicans—could even backfire. 150 00:07:37,733 --> 00:07:39,633 [Reagan] The gerrymandering risk is real: 151 00:07:40,033 --> 00:07:42,933 [Reagan] pack your margins too thin and a wave wipes you out. 152 00:07:43,283 --> 00:07:44,883 [Rush Lindell] Jeffries already called it that, 153 00:07:45,133 --> 00:07:45,733 [Rush Lindell] out loud, 154 00:07:45,933 --> 00:07:46,533 [Rush Lindell] on camera. 155 00:07:46,883 --> 00:07:47,433 [Reagan] Bold! 156 00:07:47,933 --> 00:07:48,783 [Rush Lindell] Now Tennessee, 157 00:07:49,133 --> 00:07:50,383 [Rush Lindell] that's where it gets dark. 158 00:07:50,733 --> 00:07:52,933 [Rush Lindell] Governor Bill Lee called a special session. 159 00:07:53,333 --> 00:07:54,433 [Rush Lindell] They cracked Memphis, 160 00:07:54,533 --> 00:07:56,233 [Rush Lindell] the state's only majority black city. 161 00:07:55,961 --> 00:07:59,761 [Rush Lindell] Black District across three separate rural districts; Three, 162 00:08:00,111 --> 00:08:01,711 [Rush Lindell] Steve Cohen's seat gone. 163 00:08:02,111 --> 00:08:05,861 [Reagan] And they had to repeal a fifty year old state law just to do it. 164 00:08:06,261 --> 00:08:09,911 [Reagan] Tennessee had barred mid-decade redistricting since nineteen seventy-two. 165 00:08:10,261 --> 00:08:12,711 [Reagan] They erased that prohibition in the same session. 166 00:08:13,211 --> 00:08:17,861 [Rush Lindell] Three days they flipped fifty years of state law in three days. 167 00:08:18,361 --> 00:08:18,661 [Reagan] Look, 168 00:08:18,761 --> 00:08:22,061 [Reagan] I get why Republicans see this as a legal opening after Gingles. 169 00:08:21,945 --> 00:08:27,895 [Reagan] But cracking a majority Black city into rural white districts that stretch hundreds of miles east? 170 00:08:28,045 --> 00:08:30,145 [Reagan] That's not a clean partisan argument. 171 00:08:30,395 --> 00:08:31,895 [Reagan] That's harder to defend on the merits. 172 00:08:32,395 --> 00:08:34,245 [Rush Lindell] And here's something worth noting. 173 00:08:34,495 --> 00:08:36,645 [Rush Lindell] The ACLU, the NAACP, 174 00:08:36,745 --> 00:08:38,695 [Rush Lindell] multiple lawsuits already filed. 175 00:08:38,995 --> 00:08:41,645 [Rush Lindell] Courts are going to be sorting this out well past November. 176 00:08:42,195 --> 00:08:43,445 [Reagan] Which raises the question, 177 00:08:43,745 --> 00:08:49,295 [Reagan] how many of these seats are really locked in versus how many are just legal chaos waiting to happen? 178 00:08:49,657 --> 00:08:50,407 [Rush Lindell] Alabama, 179 00:08:50,707 --> 00:08:51,157 [Rush Lindell] Louisiana, 180 00:08:51,607 --> 00:08:52,007 [Rush Lindell] Arkansas, 181 00:08:52,357 --> 00:08:53,107 [Rush Lindell] South Carolina, 182 00:08:53,207 --> 00:08:54,357 [Rush Lindell] all moving too. 183 00:08:54,607 --> 00:08:58,007 [Rush Lindell] The total potential Republican gain from all of this redistricting? 184 00:08:58,257 --> 00:09:02,107 [Rush Lindell] Up to 19 new Republican-leaning seats if it all holds. 185 00:09:02,557 --> 00:09:03,507 [Reagan] Big if. 186 00:09:04,057 --> 00:09:04,907 [Rush Lindell] Big if. 187 00:09:05,057 --> 00:09:07,907 [Rush Lindell] But, and this is what Democrats don't want to admit, 188 00:09:08,157 --> 00:09:10,357 [Rush Lindell] they weren't exactly sitting on their hands either. 189 00:09:10,707 --> 00:09:11,257 [Rush Lindell] California, 190 00:09:11,507 --> 00:09:11,957 [Rush Lindell] Virginia, 191 00:09:12,307 --> 00:09:12,607 [Rush Lindell] Utah, 192 00:09:12,957 --> 00:09:15,007 [Rush Lindell] which is a story for about 30 seconds from now. 193 00:09:20,449 --> 00:09:25,899 [Rush Lindell] Both sides sat in that court room acting horrified-scandalized! 194 00:09:26,249 --> 00:09:30,799 [Reagan] Both parties discovered gerrymandering simultaneously-what a coincidence! 195 00:09:31,599 --> 00:09:35,649 [Rush Lindell] Right; this is the part where Republicans pretend Democrats invented it, 196 00:09:35,899 --> 00:09:39,749 [Rush Lindell] and Democrats pretend Republicans are uniquely evil for doing it, 197 00:09:39,999 --> 00:09:41,699 [Rush Lindell] both with straight faces. 198 00:09:42,249 --> 00:09:44,549 [Reagan] The Hill quoted Senator Jim Banks, 199 00:09:44,599 --> 00:09:45,599 [Reagan] Indiana Republican, 200 00:09:45,949 --> 00:09:46,249 [Reagan] saying: 201 00:09:46,137 --> 00:09:50,237 [Reagan] If both sides are doing it, you kind of have an Arms Race, 202 00:09:50,337 --> 00:09:53,437 [Reagan] which is the most honest thing anyone said about this. 203 00:09:53,837 --> 00:09:54,587 [Rush Lindell] Arms Race. 204 00:09:54,637 --> 00:09:56,037 [Rush Lindell] That is exactly right. 205 00:09:56,437 --> 00:10:00,087 [Rush Lindell] California voters approved maps targeting five Republican districts. 206 00:10:00,587 --> 00:10:05,587 [Rush Lindell] Virginia passed a Democrat-friendly map. Then the state Supreme Court threw it out post-Kalis. 207 00:10:05,937 --> 00:10:09,937 [Reagan] So Utah got a court-ordered Democratic district in Salt Lake County, 208 00:10:10,087 --> 00:10:10,587 [Reagan] so yes, 209 00:10:10,787 --> 00:10:12,237 [Reagan] both parties are at the table. 210 00:10:12,121 --> 00:10:12,371 [Reagan] TABLE. 211 00:10:12,671 --> 00:10:14,321 [Rush Lindell] And you know what nobody wants to say? 212 00:10:14,621 --> 00:10:17,671 [Rush Lindell] The Supreme Court green lit all of this back in twenty nineteen: 213 00:10:18,021 --> 00:10:18,521 [Rush Lindell] Rucho v. 214 00:10:18,821 --> 00:10:19,621 [Rush Lindell] Common Cause, 215 00:10:19,721 --> 00:10:27,271 [Rush Lindell] five four; Roberts writing that partisan gerrymandering claims are nonjudiciable; federal courts cannot touch it. 216 00:10:27,421 --> 00:10:29,671 [Reagan] Which means Congress could have fixed it. 217 00:10:29,771 --> 00:10:31,371 [Reagan] They didn't, so we got this. 218 00:10:31,821 --> 00:10:32,521 [Rush Lindell] Shocked, 219 00:10:32,571 --> 00:10:33,971 [Rush Lindell] absolutely shocked. 220 00:10:34,321 --> 00:10:38,121 [Reagan] The Arms Race was constitutionally authorized seven years ago. 221 00:10:38,041 --> 00:10:38,491 [Reagan] Go Rush, 222 00:10:38,591 --> 00:10:39,941 [Reagan] nobody's inventing anything. 223 00:10:40,391 --> 00:10:40,791 [Rush Lindell] Reagan, 224 00:10:40,891 --> 00:10:45,441 [Rush Lindell] I would like to schedule a fake press conference-both party leaders at the podium, 225 00:10:45,591 --> 00:10:46,341 [Rush Lindell] outraged, 226 00:10:46,641 --> 00:10:47,141 [Rush Lindell] somber, 227 00:10:47,441 --> 00:10:50,141 [Rush Lindell] demanding the other side stop the thing they started. 228 00:10:50,491 --> 00:10:51,241 [Reagan] I'd watch that. 229 00:10:51,491 --> 00:10:52,541 [Rush Lindell] I'd run it on a loop. 230 00:10:52,791 --> 00:10:53,041 [Rush Lindell] Look, 231 00:10:53,191 --> 00:10:54,441 [Rush Lindell] the comedy is real, 232 00:10:54,641 --> 00:10:56,241 [Rush Lindell] but so is the question underneath it: 233 00:10:56,441 --> 00:11:01,291 [Rush Lindell] more than a quarter of all congressional districts have already been redrawn mid decade. 234 00:11:01,491 --> 00:11:04,341 [Rush Lindell] Does any of that actually change who controls the chamber? 235 00:11:04,505 --> 00:11:05,555 [Reagan] That's the thing. 236 00:11:05,705 --> 00:11:11,955 [Reagan] Maps can shift individual seats. Whether they can stop a national wave is a completely different argument. 237 00:11:12,205 --> 00:11:13,505 [Rush Lindell] And that's where we're going. 238 00:11:18,905 --> 00:11:20,855 [Rush Lindell] So the maps moved the number. 239 00:11:21,355 --> 00:11:28,505 [Rush Lindell] Race to the WH had Republicans at eighteen point nine percent odds of holding the House before Florida, Tennessee and Virginia. 240 00:11:28,905 --> 00:11:30,305 [Rush Lindell] After those new maps, 241 00:11:30,755 --> 00:11:32,505 [Rush Lindell] twenty seven point two percent. 242 00:11:32,705 --> 00:11:33,855 [Rush Lindell] That's real movement. 243 00:11:34,205 --> 00:11:34,955 [Reagan] It's real, 244 00:11:35,105 --> 00:11:35,705 [Reagan] but Rush, 245 00:11:35,805 --> 00:11:41,605 [Reagan] Democrats are still sitting at roughly 73%. And that gap doesn't close by drawing lines. 246 00:11:41,805 --> 00:11:42,905 [Rush Lindell] You sound confident. 247 00:11:43,105 --> 00:11:44,255 [Reagan] I am actually. 248 00:11:44,555 --> 00:11:45,055 [Reagan] Look, 249 00:11:45,105 --> 00:11:47,805 [Reagan] political scientists have pointed out for years that 250 00:11:47,609 --> 00:11:55,659 [Reagan] But packing minority voters into fewer districts often helped Republicans in the South by bleeding Democratic votes out of the surrounding seats. 251 00:11:56,109 --> 00:11:57,109 [Reagan] Break those packs up, 252 00:11:57,209 --> 00:11:59,859 [Reagan] and some of those surrounding districts get more competitive, 253 00:12:00,059 --> 00:12:00,659 [Reagan] not less. 254 00:12:01,009 --> 00:12:01,309 [Rush Lindell] Wait, 255 00:12:01,509 --> 00:12:03,659 [Rush Lindell] you're saying the strategy could backfire? 256 00:12:04,009 --> 00:12:05,109 [Reagan] In some cases, 257 00:12:05,209 --> 00:12:05,459 [Reagan] yeah, 258 00:12:05,659 --> 00:12:07,509 [Reagan] the counterintuitive outcome is real. 259 00:12:08,009 --> 00:12:09,509 [Rush Lindell] I'll give you that. 260 00:12:09,809 --> 00:12:10,759 [Rush Lindell] That's a real wrinkle! 261 00:12:11,159 --> 00:12:12,509 [Reagan] But here's the bigger point: 262 00:12:12,759 --> 00:12:13,909 [Reagan] a wave is a wave. 263 00:12:13,977 --> 00:12:14,877 [Reagan] In 2018, 264 00:12:15,327 --> 00:12:17,427 [Reagan] Democrats gained 41 seats. 265 00:12:17,427 --> 00:12:17,727 [Rush Lindell] Wow. 266 00:12:17,727 --> 00:12:18,577 [Reagan] Forty-one. 267 00:12:18,777 --> 00:12:21,827 [Reagan] No map in any single cycle was going to stop that. 268 00:12:21,977 --> 00:12:22,627 [Rush Lindell] Okay, 269 00:12:22,677 --> 00:12:25,227 [Rush Lindell] but is 2026 a 2018? 270 00:12:26,077 --> 00:12:27,277 [Rush Lindell] Trump's approval's underwater, 271 00:12:27,477 --> 00:12:27,827 [Rush Lindell] sure. 272 00:12:28,077 --> 00:12:29,677 [Rush Lindell] Negative 21 net. 273 00:12:29,977 --> 00:12:32,027 [Rush Lindell] Special elections have broken Democratic. 274 00:12:32,427 --> 00:12:34,577 [Rush Lindell] But the Brookings analysis said it themselves. 275 00:12:35,077 --> 00:12:36,827 [Rush Lindell] Redistricting altered the outlook. 276 00:12:37,027 --> 00:12:37,927 [Rush Lindell] That's not nothing. 277 00:12:38,227 --> 00:12:42,927 [Reagan] It buys seats at the margins if Democrats need three seats and the environment gives them. 278 00:12:42,681 --> 00:12:43,681 [Reagan] and give them fifteen, 279 00:12:43,981 --> 00:12:45,231 [Reagan] the margins don't matter. 280 00:12:45,681 --> 00:12:47,631 [Rush Lindell] And if the environment gives them four? 281 00:12:47,981 --> 00:12:48,331 [Reagan] Then, 282 00:12:48,381 --> 00:12:48,581 [Reagan] yeah, 283 00:12:48,731 --> 00:12:50,281 [Reagan] every redrawn district counts. 284 00:12:50,481 --> 00:12:52,531 [Reagan] That's the real bet Republicans are making. 285 00:12:53,081 --> 00:12:57,731 [Rush Lindell] Which is why the map matters not as a wall but as a tiebreaker in a close race. 286 00:12:58,131 --> 00:13:01,131 [Rush Lindell] If twenty twenty six is a six seat Democratic environment, 287 00:13:01,531 --> 00:13:02,631 [Rush Lindell] Republicans may hold. 288 00:13:02,831 --> 00:13:04,531 [Rush Lindell] If it's a twenty seat wave, 289 00:13:04,931 --> 00:13:05,831 [Rush Lindell] no map survives. 290 00:13:06,281 --> 00:13:06,631 [Reagan] Right, 291 00:13:06,781 --> 00:13:07,531 [Reagan] and right now, 292 00:13:07,681 --> 00:13:09,631 [Reagan] nobody actually knows which one it is. 293 00:13:09,433 --> 00:13:09,733 [Reagan] This 294 00:13:09,783 --> 00:13:10,933 [Rush Lindell] Nobody does, 295 00:13:11,083 --> 00:13:12,533 [Rush Lindell] but I'll tell you what we do know. 296 00:13:12,783 --> 00:13:18,033 [Rush Lindell] The number of seats separating a Republican majority from a Democratic House is razor thin, 297 00:13:18,283 --> 00:13:20,783 [Rush Lindell] and the seat math on that, we're going there next. 298 00:13:26,415 --> 00:13:30,165 [Rush Lindell] So here's the math that should be keeping Speaker Johnson up at night: 299 00:13:30,465 --> 00:13:31,965 [Rush Lindell] Democrats need Three. 300 00:13:32,415 --> 00:13:35,415 [Rush Lindell] Three Republicans can lose no more than Two. 301 00:13:35,815 --> 00:13:39,065 [Reagan] And with Thirty-six House Republicans having announced retirement, 302 00:13:39,465 --> 00:13:41,915 [Reagan] more than the Thirty-four who walked in Twenty eighteen, 303 00:13:42,315 --> 00:13:44,215 [Reagan] the cycle Democrats flipped the chamber, 304 00:13:44,665 --> 00:13:47,065 [Reagan] that open seat vulnerability is real. 305 00:13:47,565 --> 00:13:51,215 [Reagan] The Hill reported it's already a record for single party departures. 306 00:13:51,615 --> 00:13:53,365 [Rush Lindell] That number keeps me up. 307 00:13:53,465 --> 00:13:54,465 [Rush Lindell] Thirty-six, 308 00:13:54,865 --> 00:13:56,465 [Rush Lindell] and what gets me is the pattern: 309 00:13:56,965 --> 00:13:57,915 [Rush Lindell] in Twenty eighteen, 310 00:13:58,065 --> 00:14:00,115 [Rush Lindell] Republicans lost Forty-one seats. 311 00:14:00,202 --> 00:14:03,202 [Rush Lindell] That's after that exact retirement pace. 312 00:14:03,402 --> 00:14:04,752 [Rush Lindell] History doesn't repeat, 313 00:14:04,952 --> 00:14:06,102 [Rush Lindell] but it rhymes loudly. 314 00:14:06,452 --> 00:14:12,452 [Reagan] Open seats flip at historically higher rates than challenged incumbents. No name recognition advantage, 315 00:14:12,902 --> 00:14:13,852 [Reagan] no franking mail, 316 00:14:14,102 --> 00:14:15,652 [Reagan] no constituent service record. 317 00:14:15,852 --> 00:14:18,802 [Reagan] You're starting at zero against a fired up challenger. 318 00:14:19,052 --> 00:14:23,002 [Rush Lindell] Nothing like handing your opponent a blank canvas in a blue year. 319 00:14:23,252 --> 00:14:28,102 [Reagan] And Cook Political Report is tracking Thirty-seven Republican open seats right now. 320 00:14:27,934 --> 00:14:28,234 [Reagan] Right now, 321 00:14:28,734 --> 00:14:29,834 [Reagan] even if most are safe, 322 00:14:30,034 --> 00:14:31,834 [Reagan] a handful are genuinely competitive. 323 00:14:32,434 --> 00:14:32,884 [Reagan] Nebraska, 324 00:14:33,034 --> 00:14:33,284 [Reagan] too, 325 00:14:33,534 --> 00:14:34,634 [Reagan] Don Bacon's old seat, 326 00:14:34,784 --> 00:14:36,884 [Reagan] is right there in Cook's toss-up column. 327 00:14:37,434 --> 00:14:38,334 [Rush Lindell] Arizona 1, 328 00:14:38,534 --> 00:14:40,434 [Rush Lindell] open after Schweikert ran for governor. 329 00:14:40,834 --> 00:14:41,884 [Rush Lindell] Colorado 8, 330 00:14:42,134 --> 00:14:45,334 [Rush Lindell] Gabe Evans defending in a seat that nearly flipped in 2022. 331 00:14:46,234 --> 00:14:47,184 [Rush Lindell] Pennsylvania 7, 332 00:14:47,434 --> 00:14:48,234 [Rush Lindell] Pennsylvania 10, 333 00:14:48,534 --> 00:14:49,884 [Rush Lindell] these are live races. 334 00:14:50,284 --> 00:14:56,734 [Reagan] And that's before you factor in that Decision Desk put around 45 seats total in the genuine competitive. 335 00:14:56,638 --> 00:15:00,938 [Reagan] Additive Zone-roughly one in ten districts decides who runs this country. 336 00:15:01,438 --> 00:15:02,438 [Rush Lindell] Let me land this: 337 00:15:02,688 --> 00:15:06,238 [Rush Lindell] the Senate is where the cable chyrons live; but the Gavel, 338 00:15:06,488 --> 00:15:07,038 [Rush Lindell] the agenda, 339 00:15:07,288 --> 00:15:07,788 [Rush Lindell] the budget, 340 00:15:07,938 --> 00:15:09,988 [Rush Lindell] the committee chairs-that's the House. 341 00:15:10,388 --> 00:15:15,038 [Rush Lindell] I'm holding the majority right now with a margin thinner than a single news cycle: 342 00:15:15,038 --> 00:15:15,388 [Speaker 3] Yeah. 343 00:15:15,388 --> 00:15:16,288 [Rush Lindell] three seats, 344 00:15:16,638 --> 00:15:17,738 [Rush Lindell] two losses max, 345 00:15:18,138 --> 00:15:20,988 [Rush Lindell] thirty six vacancies on my side of the aisle. 346 00:15:21,438 --> 00:15:23,788 [Reagan] And the maps we've been talking about all hour? 347 00:15:23,988 --> 00:15:24,988 [Reagan] They help at the margins. 348 00:15:24,990 --> 00:15:28,240 [Reagan] But this many open seats in this environment? 349 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:33,140 [Rush Lindell] is exactly why the redistricting math doesn't close the deal on its own. 350 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,890 [Rush Lindell] The bodies still have to show up in November. 351 00:15:41,470 --> 00:15:43,820 [Rush Lindell] So where does this all land for November? 352 00:15:44,420 --> 00:15:45,670 [Rush Lindell] Alabama's new map, 353 00:15:45,770 --> 00:15:48,570 [Rush Lindell] the one that stripped out the majority black district, 354 00:15:48,870 --> 00:15:58,020 [Rush Lindell] cleared a Supreme Court emergency order on June 2nd. Florida's map survived the Florida Supreme Court on June 10th. These things are moving fast. 355 00:15:58,370 --> 00:16:00,920 [Reagan] And yet the litigation isn't done. 356 00:16:01,270 --> 00:16:05,420 [Reagan] Florida still has an active appellate challenge under the Fair Districts Amendment. 357 00:16:06,020 --> 00:16:08,270 [Reagan] Alabama's map faces ongoing suits. 358 00:16:08,830 --> 00:16:12,930 [Reagan] A federal court could still move before November; nothing is settled. 359 00:16:13,530 --> 00:16:14,880 [Rush Lindell] Which is the honest read? 360 00:16:15,030 --> 00:16:16,180 [Rush Lindell] You watch the map, 361 00:16:16,380 --> 00:16:17,830 [Rush Lindell] you also watch the docket. 362 00:16:17,830 --> 00:16:18,230 [Speaker 4] Mm-hmm. 363 00:16:18,230 --> 00:16:18,930 [Rush Lindell] Both matter. 364 00:16:19,430 --> 00:16:29,130 [Reagan] States that couldn't finish redistricting in time for twenty twenty six primaries-some still under court ordered maps-retain the option to redraw for twenty twenty eight. 365 00:16:29,580 --> 00:16:31,880 [Reagan] The Kalli fallout doesn't end in November. 366 00:16:32,380 --> 00:16:34,430 [Rush Lindell] Right; this goes beyond one cycle, 367 00:16:34,430 --> 00:16:34,680 [Speaker 4] Mm-hmm. 368 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,530 [Rush Lindell] which brings me back to the thing I said at the top of this show. 369 00:16:37,758 --> 00:16:39,058 [Reagan] The Senate Obsession 370 00:16:39,508 --> 00:16:44,758 [Rush Lindell] The Senate obsession-Everyone's running Senate polls like that's where the country's decided. 371 00:16:45,208 --> 00:16:45,358 [Rush Lindell] But, 372 00:16:45,408 --> 00:16:45,658 [Rush Lindell] Reagan, 373 00:16:45,808 --> 00:16:47,308 [Rush Lindell] the House controls the budget, 374 00:16:47,558 --> 00:16:49,908 [Rush Lindell] the House controls every committee gavel. 375 00:16:50,208 --> 00:16:53,608 [Rush Lindell] You want to know who actually runs Washington in twenty twenty seven? 376 00:16:54,008 --> 00:16:55,158 [Rush Lindell] Watch the House map. 377 00:16:55,608 --> 00:16:57,608 [Reagan] The math is brutal for Republicans: 378 00:16:58,208 --> 00:16:59,708 [Reagan] Three seats-that's Democrats' 379 00:16:59,958 --> 00:17:03,158 [Reagan] number-open seats from Thirty-six retirements, 380 00:17:03,358 --> 00:17:05,808 [Reagan] active litigation on the maps they were counting on. 381 00:17:06,140 --> 00:17:07,590 [Reagan] That's not a comfortable position. 382 00:17:08,140 --> 00:17:17,790 [Rush Lindell] No margin—none—and you know what nobody wants to say—the Senate majority means nothing if Hakeem Jeffries is running the floor and the Budget Committee—nothing. 383 00:17:18,340 --> 00:17:20,490 [Reagan] The Brookings piece made this point clearly: 384 00:17:20,990 --> 00:17:22,840 [Reagan] the redistricting advantage is real, 385 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:27,090 [Reagan] but its actual electoral impact remains uncertain heading into November. 386 00:17:27,590 --> 00:17:28,690 [Reagan] That's not pessimism, 387 00:17:28,890 --> 00:17:30,440 [Reagan] that's just what the evidence supports. 388 00:17:31,140 --> 00:17:31,640 [Rush Lindell] Honest! 389 00:17:31,614 --> 00:17:32,464 [Rush Lindell] Which is rare. 390 00:17:32,714 --> 00:17:34,114 [Rush Lindell] So here's your watch list: 391 00:17:34,464 --> 00:17:35,814 [Rush Lindell] Florida appellate courts, 392 00:17:36,164 --> 00:17:37,564 [Rush Lindell] Alabama federal suits, 393 00:17:37,864 --> 00:17:42,464 [Rush Lindell] and every open-seat Republican district where there's no incumbent to carry the name. 394 00:17:42,764 --> 00:17:43,664 [Rush Lindell] That's the race. 395 00:17:43,864 --> 00:17:46,114 [Rush Lindell] That's where 2026 gets decided. 396 00:17:46,464 --> 00:17:47,814 [Reagan] Keep your eyes on the House. 397 00:17:53,150 --> 00:17:54,600 [Rush Lindell] All right, that's the show. 398 00:17:54,950 --> 00:17:55,550 [Rush Lindell] Bottom line, 399 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,700 [Rush Lindell] the House is where 2026 is actually decided, 400 00:17:59,100 --> 00:18:02,750 [Rush Lindell] and the Callais ruling reshuffled every map on the board. 401 00:18:03,100 --> 00:18:05,400 [Reagan] And what's stuck with me is the math we ran: 402 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:09,100 [Reagan] Democrats need three seats; Republicans can lose two. 403 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:11,100 [Reagan] That's not a comfortable majority, 404 00:18:11,250 --> 00:18:12,250 [Reagan] that's a tightrope. 405 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,200 [Rush Lindell] Gavel Watch is live, 406 00:18:14,350 --> 00:18:14,600 [Rush Lindell] people, 407 00:18:14,950 --> 00:18:18,550 [Rush Lindell] and those redistricted maps are still being litigated as we speak. 408 00:18:18,950 --> 00:18:20,150 [Rush Lindell] This story isn't over. 409 00:18:20,382 --> 00:18:23,232 [Reagan] It won't be over in 2026, honestly. 410 00:18:23,482 --> 00:18:25,282 [Reagan] The fallout runs into 2028. 411 00:18:25,532 --> 00:18:27,082 [Rush Lindell] Which means I'll be here, 412 00:18:27,482 --> 00:18:28,482 [Rush Lindell] covering all of it. 413 00:18:28,732 --> 00:18:30,482 [Reagan] Thanks for spending your time with us today. 414 00:18:30,682 --> 00:18:34,832 [Reagan] If this episode made you think differently about where the real power fight is, 415 00:18:35,132 --> 00:18:35,882 [Reagan] that's what we're after. 416 00:18:36,382 --> 00:18:40,782 [Rush Lindell] Subscribe, leave us a five-star review, and send this to one person who needs to hear it. 417 00:18:41,182 --> 00:18:42,732 [Rush Lindell] New episodes every weekday. 418 00:18:42,932 --> 00:18:43,732 [Reagan] See you tomorrow, 419 00:18:43,782 --> 00:18:43,982 [Reagan] Rush. 420 00:18:44,332 --> 00:18:44,982 [Rush Lindell] See you then. 421 00:18:47,838 --> 00:18:49,288 [Speaker 5] Takk for att du så med.